1 00:00:08,509 --> 00:00:05,870 Senator gillibran makes clear that this 2 00:00:11,570 --> 00:00:08,519 process started because of Senator Reid 3 00:00:14,330 --> 00:00:11,580 in 2017. so she started this whole 4 00:00:16,310 --> 00:00:14,340 hearing making it known that the reason 5 00:00:19,609 --> 00:00:16,320 that we are here is because of the 6 00:00:23,570 --> 00:00:19,619 events of 2017 which if you remember as 7 00:00:26,390 --> 00:00:23,580 people like Lou Elizondo Chris melon the 8 00:00:27,970 --> 00:00:26,400 New York Times story and others no 9 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:27,980 budget 10 00:00:35,630 --> 00:00:33,840 and he didn't put enough to barely do 11 00:00:37,370 --> 00:00:35,640 anything for Arrow and that's the 12 00:00:40,130 --> 00:00:37,380 president's budget so 13 00:00:43,069 --> 00:00:40,140 the president is not allocating enough 14 00:00:45,889 --> 00:00:43,079 for Arrow right there she acknowledged 15 00:00:48,529 --> 00:00:45,899 Mr Chris melon who is the one to say and 16 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:48,539 mention the issue of opening the 17 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:50,640 aperture on the radar so that they could 18 00:00:57,470 --> 00:00:52,800 pick up these different objects 19 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,480 public safe disclosure so 20 00:01:02,270 --> 00:00:59,760 they're setting it up 21 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:02,280 for a disclosure to happen National 22 00:01:09,230 --> 00:01:05,519 Security they're making it known UAP are 23 00:01:12,170 --> 00:01:09,240 a matter of National Security arrow is a 24 00:01:15,050 --> 00:01:12,180 combination of previous DOD UAB efforts 25 00:01:18,490 --> 00:01:15,060 my question is which one is he saying 26 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:18,500 it's a combination of efforts 27 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:21,840 compounding out from 1969 well what's he 28 00:01:28,130 --> 00:01:24,479 saying awesome atip 29 00:01:31,310 --> 00:01:28,140 what establishing safety across all 30 00:01:33,010 --> 00:01:31,320 domains is their number one issue so he 31 00:01:35,870 --> 00:01:33,020 pretty much just 32 00:01:37,609 --> 00:01:35,880 addressed the historic 33 00:01:39,710 --> 00:01:37,619 citing stuff 34 00:01:42,530 --> 00:01:39,720 by saying we can't answer all your 35 00:01:44,749 --> 00:01:42,540 questions in one day you know 36 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:44,759 um but they 37 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,799 you know intend to 38 00:01:50,510 --> 00:01:48,240 after 39 00:01:53,450 --> 00:01:50,520 they get the safety stuff down 40 00:01:58,010 --> 00:01:53,460 with all the different military branches 41 00:02:00,530 --> 00:01:58,020 so I think that's uh important 42 00:02:02,210 --> 00:02:00,540 as far as expectations that they have a 43 00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:02,220 lot of work to do before they even get 44 00:02:07,730 --> 00:02:05,360 to the historical aspect a lot of hands 45 00:02:09,290 --> 00:02:07,740 in the problem 46 00:02:12,530 --> 00:02:09,300 they have people from all different 47 00:02:14,449 --> 00:02:12,540 intelligence agencies and all across the 48 00:02:16,309 --> 00:02:14,459 place Department of energy who is 49 00:02:19,369 --> 00:02:16,319 supposed to be holding some of these 50 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:19,379 secrets so there's a lot of uh hands in 51 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:20,760 the pot here and when that happens 52 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:23,040 things can go wrong if there is some 53 00:02:28,610 --> 00:02:26,400 deep secret or whatever you can be sure 54 00:02:30,110 --> 00:02:28,620 then on the program I just thought that 55 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:30,120 was interesting that a lot of people are 56 00:02:34,190 --> 00:02:32,280 going to be involved it's a scientific 57 00:02:36,170 --> 00:02:34,200 issue more than an intelligence issue 58 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,180 which is very interesting because they 59 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:38,400 just got done saying UAP are a matter of 60 00:02:42,410 --> 00:02:40,560 National Security small percentage have 61 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:42,420 anomalous signatures but half are 62 00:02:46,729 --> 00:02:44,640 anomalous apparently most without 63 00:02:49,250 --> 00:02:46,739 signatures so he said a couple different 64 00:02:51,650 --> 00:02:49,260 things here first he's saying only a 65 00:02:52,970 --> 00:02:51,660 small percentage show anomalous 66 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:52,980 signatures 67 00:02:58,190 --> 00:02:57,480 but he also says that out of 650 68 00:03:01,910 --> 00:02:58,200 um 69 00:03:04,369 --> 00:03:01,920 cases that they're currently on half of 70 00:03:07,869 --> 00:03:04,379 them about 71 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:09,530 characteristics 72 00:03:14,270 --> 00:03:11,940 so only thing I can think of is that he 73 00:03:17,449 --> 00:03:14,280 means only a small percentage show 74 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:17,459 actual signatures electronic signatures 75 00:03:21,770 --> 00:03:19,920 but half of them 76 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:21,780 seemed like they could have anomalous 77 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:23,280 characteristics but they don't have 78 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:25,980 enough data further we go on through 79 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:27,060 this 80 00:03:31,729 --> 00:03:29,760 you know you'll realize that to me the 81 00:03:33,290 --> 00:03:31,739 picture becomes clear here that any 82 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:33,300 possible disclosure won't come from 83 00:03:37,729 --> 00:03:34,620 Arrow 84 00:03:41,630 --> 00:03:40,070 that if he finds anything 85 00:03:43,610 --> 00:03:41,640 where the only explanation is 86 00:03:46,490 --> 00:03:43,620 extraterrestrial 87 00:03:49,729 --> 00:03:46,500 he's going to give it to NASA 88 00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:49,739 and if it's anomalous and winds up being 89 00:03:53,630 --> 00:03:51,540 like foreign like Chinese or something 90 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:53,640 like that he's going to give it 91 00:03:58,490 --> 00:03:55,920 to the intelligence community 92 00:04:01,009 --> 00:03:58,500 so either way we're not going to find 93 00:04:04,009 --> 00:04:01,019 out the truth on this stuff from Arrow 94 00:04:06,350 --> 00:04:04,019 ET Discovery goes to NASA not to the 95 00:04:08,030 --> 00:04:06,360 public basically what it sounds like to 96 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:08,040 any anybody who's trying to make a case 97 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:10,319 on any of these UAP things what I take 98 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:12,959 it as is gimbal Tic Tac 99 00:04:17,629 --> 00:04:16,440 go fast maybe the pyramid video all 100 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:17,639 those people are trying to make 101 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:20,220 Arguments for that he's saying 102 00:04:23,870 --> 00:04:21,840 um you know science runs by peer review 103 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:23,880 so put together your idea and have it 104 00:04:26,689 --> 00:04:25,080 peer-reviewed 105 00:04:28,430 --> 00:04:26,699 you know and that's what he's saying 106 00:04:31,310 --> 00:04:28,440 that he's going to be doing but the 107 00:04:33,290 --> 00:04:31,320 interesting thing is that we don't have 108 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:33,300 all the freaking data men so how are we 109 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:34,740 supposed to put something together for 110 00:04:37,790 --> 00:04:36,720 peer review when we don't have all the 111 00:04:39,650 --> 00:04:37,800 data 112 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:39,660 it's ridiculous 113 00:04:43,370 --> 00:04:41,580 so he's trying to take a cheap shot at 114 00:04:46,850 --> 00:04:43,380 people who have their ideas and what 115 00:04:48,530 --> 00:04:46,860 they think about the different cases 116 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:48,540 tells them to do something with peer 117 00:04:54,350 --> 00:04:52,080 review when we don't have the data 118 00:04:56,510 --> 00:04:54,360 yeah tell whoever those people were that 119 00:04:58,969 --> 00:04:56,520 took the data bricks off the uh what was 120 00:05:02,270 --> 00:04:58,979 it the Princeton 121 00:05:04,969 --> 00:05:02,280 tell those guys to to help us out so we 122 00:05:06,650 --> 00:05:04,979 can't put a peer review paper together 123 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:06,660 because they have the data apparently 124 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:09,240 from the Tic Tac event so we've been 125 00:05:14,510 --> 00:05:11,280 through this Project Blue Book did the 126 00:05:16,969 --> 00:05:14,520 same thing probably or possibly balloon 127 00:05:19,310 --> 00:05:16,979 you know so they don't know for sure if 128 00:05:22,010 --> 00:05:19,320 it's a balloon 129 00:05:23,810 --> 00:05:22,020 let's just say if the object is moving 130 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:23,820 with the Wind 131 00:05:28,370 --> 00:05:26,160 it was reported as a sphere they'll 132 00:05:30,890 --> 00:05:28,380 probably say 133 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:30,900 it's a possible balloon he's got two 134 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:34,380 groups in ic group and he's got his own 135 00:05:37,969 --> 00:05:36,000 intelligence group in a scientific group 136 00:05:40,670 --> 00:05:37,979 they look at it he looks at it and then 137 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:40,680 it goes to these retired intelligence 138 00:05:45,409 --> 00:05:42,180 folks 139 00:05:46,249 --> 00:05:45,419 who do a final peer review who are these 140 00:05:49,010 --> 00:05:46,259 people 141 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:49,020 why should we trust them 142 00:05:52,010 --> 00:05:50,880 there's so many people involved here 143 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:52,020 like 144 00:05:58,370 --> 00:05:55,500 just more ways for things to go to go 145 00:06:01,310 --> 00:05:58,380 now once the dod approves this is how 146 00:06:03,890 --> 00:06:01,320 information will become public so 147 00:06:06,170 --> 00:06:03,900 what he just said is 148 00:06:09,409 --> 00:06:06,180 that once the dod approves his little 149 00:06:13,550 --> 00:06:09,419 portal online that's where he'll put his 150 00:06:16,749 --> 00:06:13,560 unclassified UAP information 151 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:16,759 so 325 cases are of 152 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:20,340 anomalous interesting value 153 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:23,100 a couple things first of all is 154 00:06:26,930 --> 00:06:25,199 he said it's it's really hard to detect 155 00:06:29,090 --> 00:06:26,940 things when they don't have a you know a 156 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:29,100 Chinese or Russian flag on it so what I 157 00:06:33,950 --> 00:06:31,919 took away from that is so that's your 158 00:06:35,870 --> 00:06:33,960 problem from identifying things meaning 159 00:06:38,510 --> 00:06:35,880 you have 160 00:06:41,330 --> 00:06:38,520 clear video to tell what it is 161 00:06:42,409 --> 00:06:41,340 but there's no flag on it otherwise you 162 00:06:45,469 --> 00:06:42,419 could tell 163 00:06:47,090 --> 00:06:45,479 so let's see those clear videos Josh 164 00:06:50,529 --> 00:06:47,100 said something pretty important he 165 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:50,539 didn't he say Advanced Technic technical 166 00:06:55,909 --> 00:06:53,520 signatures not necessarily anomalous 167 00:07:00,590 --> 00:06:55,919 the wording is important yeah it is 168 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:04,730 he did say Advanced but I then I think 169 00:07:09,409 --> 00:07:06,240 that's up to him 170 00:07:10,909 --> 00:07:09,419 to correctly categorize that for the 171 00:07:13,610 --> 00:07:10,919 audience what's the difference between 172 00:07:14,689 --> 00:07:13,620 anomalous and advanced anomalous I would 173 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:14,699 think is something that you can't make 174 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:16,800 sense of advanced is something you 175 00:07:20,089 --> 00:07:18,900 understand but it's just kind of beyond 176 00:07:21,770 --> 00:07:20,099 your Realm 177 00:07:24,589 --> 00:07:21,780 I don't know 178 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:24,599 uh that's what OSAP did so basically 179 00:07:29,629 --> 00:07:27,840 what he's saying he's going to do is 180 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:29,639 look at 181 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:32,160 the technology 50 years down the road 182 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:34,319 and what's beyond that those are exactly 183 00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:36,960 what the aseb Nerds were so that he's 184 00:07:40,850 --> 00:07:38,340 just gonna do that again apparently 185 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:40,860 needs to help NORAD get their arms 186 00:07:46,309 --> 00:07:43,560 around this so that sounds like a 187 00:07:49,210 --> 00:07:46,319 problem to me I think it's statements 188 00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:49,220 like this that if anybody had any doubt 189 00:07:54,650 --> 00:07:52,740 the seriousness of of this and why it's 190 00:07:56,870 --> 00:07:54,660 happening I think that should be kind of 191 00:07:59,450 --> 00:07:56,880 put to bed right now if this Kirkpatrick 192 00:08:02,390 --> 00:07:59,460 is going to NORAD and helping them get 193 00:08:03,890 --> 00:08:02,400 their arms around this which means a 194 00:08:06,950 --> 00:08:03,900 problem 195 00:08:09,469 --> 00:08:06,960 um it's serious so whether you're a 196 00:08:11,930 --> 00:08:09,479 debunker or not I think there is 197 00:08:14,450 --> 00:08:11,940 something real going on and I think we 198 00:08:16,189 --> 00:08:14,460 got that uh through this hearing whether 199 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:16,199 it's foreign 200 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:19,800 or not is another question or if there's 201 00:08:25,070 --> 00:08:22,319 both but it's clear there is a serious 202 00:08:27,710 --> 00:08:25,080 issue so I think everybody should be on 203 00:08:30,589 --> 00:08:27,720 board with this no matter where you 204 00:08:32,810 --> 00:08:30,599 stand is he wants to have the ability to 205 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:32,820 have private contractors activate more 206 00:08:38,269 --> 00:08:36,000 data collection when a citing comes in 207 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:38,279 that's what he's saying so he wants to 208 00:08:43,269 --> 00:08:41,039 have the ability when a pilot or whoever 209 00:08:47,329 --> 00:08:43,279 Ryan Graves or whoever reports something 210 00:08:50,829 --> 00:08:47,339 that this other contractor can or 211 00:08:55,509 --> 00:08:50,839 private entity whatever can 212 00:09:00,610 --> 00:08:55,519 activate their other signature finding 213 00:09:05,690 --> 00:09:04,070 more Authority so he's I think it was 214 00:09:07,370 --> 00:09:05,700 title 10 or whatever and he needs to be 215 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:07,380 title 50 I don't know I don't get into 216 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:09,360 the weeds with that stuff but he doesn't 217 00:09:13,490 --> 00:09:10,860 have enough authority to do what he 218 00:09:15,290 --> 00:09:13,500 needs to do so 219 00:09:17,810 --> 00:09:15,300 um and that's basically collection 220 00:09:19,610 --> 00:09:17,820 tasking so what he would be doing I'm 221 00:09:22,670 --> 00:09:19,620 assuming is telling someone like I don't 222 00:09:24,850 --> 00:09:22,680 know nro hey can you do this with your 223 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:24,860 satellites to try to pick up UAP 224 00:09:28,009 --> 00:09:26,640 counterintelligence I'm not sure what he 225 00:09:29,690 --> 00:09:28,019 would do with that counterintelligence 226 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:29,700 always seems to be involved with UAP 227 00:09:35,030 --> 00:09:32,040 even going back to the the Blue Book 228 00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:35,040 days officially past legislation being 229 00:09:40,190 --> 00:09:38,040 stonewalled by DOD I think I counted 230 00:09:43,970 --> 00:09:40,200 like four different things that are 231 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:43,980 waiting on other people DOD implementing 232 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:46,260 the law the Department of Defense is not 233 00:09:51,769 --> 00:09:49,279 implementing the law 234 00:09:54,889 --> 00:09:51,779 doesn't even have 235 00:09:57,290 --> 00:09:54,899 any feedback for when the dod would be 236 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:57,300 able to 237 00:10:05,509 --> 00:10:03,350 so who's who's who is the dod 238 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:05,519 accountable to 239 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:08,040 she tries to ask again he just 240 00:10:11,810 --> 00:10:09,660 completely 241 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:11,820 doesn't answer and doesn't even 242 00:10:15,410 --> 00:10:13,860 acknowledge that he's not answering very 243 00:10:18,050 --> 00:10:15,420 much for 244 00:10:20,810 --> 00:10:18,060 um you know that's not what we asked 245 00:10:22,430 --> 00:10:20,820 he wants more witnesses from Congress so 246 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:22,440 what does that tell me that tells me 247 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:24,120 that they're of some value he didn't 248 00:10:28,370 --> 00:10:25,920 have to say that 249 00:10:30,050 --> 00:10:28,380 you know he didn't have to say thank you 250 00:10:31,910 --> 00:10:30,060 for the witnesses or keep sending him to 251 00:10:34,370 --> 00:10:31,920 me or whatever he didn't have to say any 252 00:10:36,650 --> 00:10:34,380 of that but he did so out of the two 253 00:10:38,690 --> 00:10:36,660 dozen Witnesses I'm guessing that he's 254 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:38,700 gotten some things of value Here We Go 255 00:10:45,410 --> 00:10:41,519 Again public engagements probably mean 256 00:10:47,329 --> 00:10:45,420 using Twitter more for starters uh and 257 00:10:49,069 --> 00:10:47,339 again we're waiting on dod you notice 258 00:10:50,810 --> 00:10:49,079 that Arrow has had a Twitter for a long 259 00:10:53,269 --> 00:10:50,820 time and as far as their public 260 00:10:55,970 --> 00:10:53,279 engagement plans they're still waiting 261 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:55,980 on the dod so whenever the dod wakes up 262 00:11:01,550 --> 00:10:58,320 from their nap apparently 263 00:11:04,910 --> 00:11:01,560 um public engagements might begin to 264 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:04,920 happen he wants to develop protocols and 265 00:11:09,170 --> 00:11:07,200 split Hunt mission for the unknown so 266 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:09,180 basically what he's saying is he wants 267 00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:12,600 to develop a process and a protocol that 268 00:11:16,670 --> 00:11:14,160 all the military branches or 269 00:11:19,610 --> 00:11:16,680 intelligence branches or agencies can 270 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:19,620 use so that Arrow doesn't need to be in 271 00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:21,360 existence anymore 272 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:24,000 his paper with Avi was about imaginary 273 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:26,160 signatures of an ET craft so basically 274 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:30,000 what he's trying to say there is 275 00:11:35,690 --> 00:11:32,640 what he's saying more than less is what 276 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:35,700 he did with the Avi was try to come up 277 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:37,920 with signatures or what it would look 278 00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:40,860 like if some of these fears really 279 00:11:47,090 --> 00:11:45,240 probably basically were E.T craft 280 00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:47,100 now this was kind of weird looking for 281 00:11:51,050 --> 00:11:48,959 objects that are typically one to four 282 00:11:52,850 --> 00:11:51,060 meters so why is that weird to me it's 283 00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:52,860 weird to me because 284 00:11:58,550 --> 00:11:55,680 if we're connecting any of this stuff to 285 00:12:01,730 --> 00:11:58,560 the past past cases I'm not saying we 286 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:01,740 should or shouldn't I'm just saying if 287 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:03,740 you study past cases 288 00:12:09,710 --> 00:12:07,260 these things aren't one to four meters 289 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:09,720 you know so and I thought that when I 290 00:12:14,090 --> 00:12:11,519 saw some of the Navy videos and now we 291 00:12:16,490 --> 00:12:14,100 have like this orb stuff like these UFOs 292 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:16,500 have become a lot smaller 293 00:12:20,690 --> 00:12:18,240 than they used to be I think we're 294 00:12:22,850 --> 00:12:20,700 getting a little clear picture possibly 295 00:12:25,970 --> 00:12:22,860 of the things that are really flying 296 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:25,980 around which is or brand sphere or brown 297 00:12:31,610 --> 00:12:28,560 sphere one to four meters 298 00:12:33,889 --> 00:12:31,620 stationary to Mach 2 no exhaust we also 299 00:12:35,690 --> 00:12:33,899 kind of have the hot spots here but I 300 00:12:37,970 --> 00:12:35,700 don't know why he calls them hot spots 301 00:12:40,790 --> 00:12:37,980 because he also said that they're sensor 302 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:40,800 bias so if there's sensor bias how can 303 00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:43,260 you call these hot spots and with this I 304 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:45,120 should say that it's good that there's 305 00:12:50,509 --> 00:12:47,040 some transparency I mean maybe you're 306 00:12:52,610 --> 00:12:50,519 not getting the answers you want to get 307 00:12:55,190 --> 00:12:52,620 maybe we don't have all the information 308 00:12:59,389 --> 00:12:55,200 that went into this report and I agree 309 00:13:05,509 --> 00:13:03,590 we are getting some information here so 310 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:05,519 hopefully we that we can just keep that